A few weeks ago, I commented on an attack on a quote by my primary instructor, Soke Takayuki Kubota, posted by Martial Arts Masters Magazine on their Facebook page. The quote said “Kata is kumite and kumite is kata”. I commented that I had learned how to put kime (focused, penetrating power at the point of contact) into my oizuki (lunge punch) from doing Tekki/Naihanchi Shodan. Someone responded that I obviously knew nothing about kata, that it was never designed for use against another trained man, that a lunge punch had no place in real self defense, that a real opponent on the street would ram an ashtray into my mouth and smash my head into his knee, etc.
My response was to ask him what he would do in the following scenario: He’s in a heated argument with a guy who stands just outside arm or foot reach. The guy angrily thrusts his hand into his coat, as if reaching for a pistol. He’s too far away to elbow, headbutt, knee, apply kyusho or tuite, etc. What would he do?
It’s a medium or long range situation, not a close range one, requiring a medium or long range technique. A fast lunge punch would cover that distance easily, but he’s clearly missing that tool in his combative toolbox. (I’m not sure how he replied as the thread had been completely removed when I checked the next day.)
(French Philosopher Voltaire said “If you wish to converse with me, define your terms”. So I should point out that what many call a lunge punch, I call a step punch. What I call a lunge punch is a much faster accelerating technique that requires different footwork and can cover a fair amount of distance in a split second.)
In his book, Hidden Karate, Gennosuke Higaki claims that, prior to coming to mainland Japan, the top Okinawan instructors (including Gichin Funakoshi) made a secret pact not to teach the mainlanders either the true kata or its bunkai. He claims they intentionally taught them what he termed “useless kata”. He bases this on statements made by his instructor, Shozan Kubota, who was reportedly one of Funakoshi Sensei’s most senior students in the early days.
A good friend, who is very informed and well connected with most of the top Okinawan masters (including past connections with some who would have been around when such a decision was made), doesn’t believe Higaki’s claim. He thought the entire premise ridiculous. Plus, Sensei Funakoshi reportedly taught both Okinawan kata and bunkai to his early mainland students, even by Higaki’s own admission (if I remember right).
But it’s not just Japanese kata some hold as useless. They also include its defensive techniques, its longer fighting distance, and its focus on competition.
If you were a general about to engage in a major war, would you want infantry, aircraft, tanks, or artillery? Or would you want them all? A wise general would surely want all the tools he could get. And the same applies here. Why would a martial artist choose to become skilled only in close fighting techniques rather than techniques for all ranges?
Great fighters always create and maintain an optimal fighting distance when given the option. (It’s one of the things that makes them so successful and sets them apart from their less skilled and less successful cohorts.) This distance is just outside the reach of an opponent’s longest weapon. (We briefly discussed the subject of distance control in an earlier post.) Such a distance prevents an opponent from reaching out with a quick kick or punch, or slash of a knife, and hitting you before you can react. Proper distance control forces an opponent to take a step before he can reach you, making it at least a two beat action, which buys you what could be critically important time – to block, sidestep, move out of range, or hit him before he can land his technique.
Granted, establishing such a distance is not always possible. But, for a skilled, defensively-aware martial artist, it’s a viable option more times than not. When a potential attacker is allowed to get too close, it’s usually due to a failure on the defender’s part. Plus, I don’t know any decent karateka who isn’t proficient in close fighting techniques. He may not be able to name the location of Triple Warmer 17, but he knows where and how to use his elbows, knees, headbutts, eye and throat attacks, etc.
I think anyone who believes competitive training and longer distance fighting made Japanese trained karateka pushovers on the street would have a very rude awakening if they faced a large number of such karateka – Mikio Yahara, Frank Smith, Ray Dalke, Tonny Tulleners, etc.
My old dojomates, John Gehlsen and Tulleners, were cops who had many occasions to apply what they learned in the dojo on the toughest streets in LA. Both fought very successfully on the U.S. team at the World Karate Championships. (John won the Tamashii Award and Tonny placed 3rd in 1970. And Tonny beat Chuck Norris 3 out of 3 times.) Neither ever lost a fight on the street, and arguably against some of the toughest, most motivated opponents – convicted felons who were trying to avoid going back to prison.
I agree that the bunkai for Japanese versions of Okinawan kata were stripped of much of their close fighting techniques – kyusho and tuite. Sensei Mikami personally confirmed that fact to me. But I wouldn’t agree that what the Japanese ended up teaching was useless. It may have led to a different set of qualities and skills in a practitioner than those intended in the original versions of Okinawan kata. But those qualities and skills were anything but useless. (I’ll identify what these are next time.)
I don’t see any of this as an either/or situation – either you learn close fighting techniques or you learn medium and long range ones. As with the smart general, I’ve chosen to cover myself (and my students) as broadly and deeply as possible, including all fighting ranges.
All this, of course, is just my opinion. And as Philosopher Will Durand once said “An intelligent man always harbors in his heart the thought he may be incorrect.” My mind is open and I’m learning new things and changing my position on old things every day. In philosophy, they’d say what I relayed in this post is my position at T1 (Time One). It could very well, with the right persuasion, be different at T2. The only ones, in my humble opinion, who never change are the stupid and the dead.
I’m trying to keep my posts shorter, rather than longer so the amount of print doesn’t make them look so formidable. So I’ll stop here for now. Next time, I’ll look at more of the reasons I don’t consider Japanese kata useless. In fact, they’re uniquely able to instill some very valuable qualities and skills badly needed today and found nowhere else. And I’ll also look at what I consider the value of the original Okinawan kata and their kyusho and tuite.
Again, thanks for reading the ramblings of a simple old man.
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Great read!
ReplyDeleteHi Jim,
ReplyDeleteI am a strong proponent of practical, realistic martial arts training, being a former police officer, executive security consultant, and professional bodyguard with International experience protecting both corporate and diplomatic clients. With that stated, those who are so quick to question the multiple benefits of training with traditional Kata are either clueless or simply haven't been taught by a well qualified teacher. You hit the target yet again with your strategy of not limiting your options. I'm looking forward to following this thread, picking your brain, and comparing notes. Thx again for sharing.
Nice information on distance! Will look for your previous post on the subject! For some time now I asumed that the Japanese fighting distance was perhaps longer than the okinawian due to the Japanese using a fencing distance, but even Kendo tend to end up very close range (covers every distance).
ReplyDeleteThanks, Shihan Pascetta. I always value your input. And I completely agree on the problem of nearsightedness in some today being due to poor instruction. I'm looking forward to reading your lastest post to your blog. And I hope others will as well.
ReplyDeleteStargazer, thanks for reading. I haven't yet focused fully on distance. I just posed a question and got a great response. And I'm with you. Having studied Kendo, the action of my punch (as taught to me by my instructor) is much like the action of a sword/shinai - sink and extend. Closing is a tricky business. So neutralization is always required before doing so. I'll get into all this sometime soon. Thanks for your input. Jim
ReplyDeleteI have mixed feelings reading this. The disrespect that others have, practical info and responses. That sense of competition or sparring matters or does it. My MOS in the National Guard really explains my attitude about fighting and why karate an kata matter to me. I was a 91B field medic. I was trained and was there to help soldiers continue to battle, but would kill to protect my charges. Kind of a conundrum. After 5 years of formal training and three years of training alone. That would be kata right? I had a customer grab me forcefully and recklessly from behind at a crowded Best Buy store. My response? A spinning shuto block to remove his hand from my shoulder jumping back into a cat stance, coiled for oi zuki or mae geri. Now where did that come from? Not sparring. I reprimanded the clueless and rude attacker without escalating. Karate training, kata training, not so much kumite, but it has its place as well.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the feedback, Michael. There's an old karate joke: How many karateka does it take to change a light bulb? Ten. One to change the bulb and nine to tell him that's not how they do it in their styles. What a lot of these negative people don't understand, due to closed-mindedness or lack of sufficient time in the martial arts, is there's no one right way. There are many right ways. I've met many very high level martial artists in a variety of arts and styles. All of them look pretty much the same - generate force in the same manner, etc. - but got there via different paths. Thanks again for reading and your input, Jim
ReplyDeleteHanshi,
ReplyDeleteI have only been training in Shotokan for 15 years, so forgive my youthful ignorance if it shines through. In the past year or so, I have been looking more deeply into why the Heian kata are the way they are, and more specifically why they are different from the Pinans in fairly significant ways. I can understand the differences between say, chamber hands, are more of a stylistic difference than a practical difference, but I really get stumped when the katas step in different directions. I.E. Pinan Nidan steps away for the first move, whereas Heian Shodan steps in.
I may just have a limited perspective, since my instructor never delved deep into the bunkai. The bunkai I was originally shown for the first two moves of Heian Shodan (left down block, step in punch, for those unfamiliar with the kata)were designed to block a front kick, then step in and finish the attacker. As is, I believe this bunkai is a good place to start a beginner. It is a good introduction to bunkai, that the moves are not a big dance but actual defense, but I believe it is not the correct bunkai.
As I said, my instructor did not emphasize going deeper into the bunkai, but rather learning the next kata etc. As such, I may be completely wrong in my next few assumptions, and if I am grossly mistaken please forgive me. Having looked at Shotokan and compared it to Shorin Ryu, I cannot figure out a tactical reason to change to deeper stances, lower chamber hands, changing square stances to back stances, or altering the direction\movement of the kata. The only thing I can come up with is that Shotokan form develops a stronger foundation to build upon by strengthening the body. Deeper stances build muscles, movement between deeper stances teaches control of your center, etc. What I cannot find a reason for is why the movement changes from stepping away to stepping towards. I hope you can shed some light on this for me, as I am stuck without direction at this point.
Respectfully,
Ryan
I’m, of course, just speculating as I wasn’t around when the changes were occurring. I would recommend you read Harry Cook’s A Precise History of Shotokan Karate. He answers most of your questions and much more. I’ll also be going into some of it in more detail in coming posts. Reportedly, the deeper, lower stances were introduced by Sensei Funakoshi’s son, Gigo, after him and his team were beaten in a small tournament by a group of Goju practitioners. He reportedly made many changes to make sure that never happened again. (He’s also credited by some with creating the side, roundhouse, and hook kicks.) As I said, I’m not sure his reasons for making stances deeper and lower, but one benefit is it positions your body center and head further away from your opponent’s techniques, making defense easier – but not without giving up some things you have with higher, shorter stances. If I remember right, no one’s sure if it was Gigo who lengthened the stances. It may simply have had to do with enhancing what reportedly attracted the Japanese officials to Okinawan karate in the first place – the better fitness levels of the Okinawan conscripts. Deeper, lower stances are more physically challenging as they strengthen muscles and increase flexibility. (They also require or enhance mental strength, tamashii, as they’re generally more painful and difficult to perfect.)
ReplyDeleteWe don’t step back on the first move in Heian Nidan so I can’t address that. We step forward in all five of the Heians. The first move in all is to move the left foot 90 degrees to the left. In Heian Shodan, we position it into forward stance. But we position it into back stance in the other four.
If you parry a punch to the face with your right hand, grab his wrist with your left and pull it to your left waist (as in mawashi uke or tora guchi) as you step back with your left leg into back stance, it pulls your opponent off balance and opens up several primary targets. This isn’t as effective if you pull them into forward or center stance or if you use a high versus low chambering.
Thanks for reading and your input.
I have read Hidden Karate, and think its a great book with lots of valuable information (I love books on karate). This said, it is still one side of af long story, that one can agree on or not. I myself do not take sides, but can only say, I like the story. Weather it is true or not is not the point, the point is, can you use the info in your training, and the answer on my side would be yes, to a certain extent.
ReplyDeleteI am a 7. dan Shotokan practicioner with 35 yrs of training under my belt. I love Karate, but hate that we have som many "masters" who only is in the "business" for the money. I love your story about the lightbulp...it says it all :-)
Oss
Ole Nielsen
Yes, I enjoyed it as well and got what I consider valuable information from it. Who knows what the truth is relative to his claim. He must have gotten it from somewhere. My friend could be wrong. Perhaps some instructors decided to withhold info from the Japanese, or said they would, then changed their minds. I find the history interesting, but sometimes frustrating as it's unprovable. But I tend to be more interested in the applicability of the information. Like you, I take what is useful from wherever I find. That's one of the things that's so great about the martial arts - all that matters on the street is does it work or not, not who said or developed it. Thanks for your input. Hope you'll contribute more in the future to help make this a more educational site for everyone, Jim
ReplyDeleteYour very welcome Jim, I just found this blog, and found your input very interesting and also I totally agree with you, but would not let it bug me if i was you. Grab what one can use and leave the rest.
ReplyDeleteIn an extent you can practice applied karate techniques, and forget about all the traditions, and learn NOTHING about defending agains agressors. Look a people like Tanaka sensei, Kanazawa sensei, Kagawa sensei. They have never done these things but I would not be the one to attack them in a dark alley...would you ?? some selfproclaimed karate masters with their "own" system wants us to train with them and practice kata applications that in many cases have nothing to do with the katas at hand, and at the same time fill their pockets ! ... just a thought.
I try to teach ALL the wonderful facets of karate, also to some extent kata applications, and books like "Hidden karate" can "jog" my fantasy, when doing programs :-)
/Ole